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The 700 Club: October 29, 2009

Author Bruce Feiler talks about Moses as a founding father. A woman is haunted by a relentless demonic spirit. Also, CBN News talks about men in the African American community living “on the down low.”

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UnderWing Transcripts PO Box 16282 Clearwater, Florida 33766 540 455-2333 / UnderWing@underwingtranscripts.com ________________________________________ The 700 Club Daily Broadcast Thursday, October 29, 2009 PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to this edition of The 700 Club. Terry, the noose has tightened around the necks of Christians to keep them from speaking out on certain moral issues. And it was embodied in something called the hate crimes bill that President Obama said was a major victory for America. I’m not sure whether America was the beneficiary. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, it may not seem like it now, but critics say that it could threaten the freedom of speech of religion and speech in America. And Jennifer Wishon has that story. JENNIFER WISHON: With a flip of his pen, President Obama added gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered people to the list of Americans granted extra protections under federal law, taking a step closer, he says, towards a more perfect union. President Barack Obama: We must stand against crimes that are meant not only to break bones, but to break spirits, not only to inflict harm, but to inflict fear. JENNIFER WISHON: Despite added language meant to strengthen free speech protections for Christians who preach biblically held beliefs against homosexuality, many Republicans fear it is not enough. Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana): Whatever language they added has an escape hatch and we know from experience at the state level and around the globe that this represents a real infringement on the first amendment, freedom of religion, freedom of expression of Americans. JENNIFER WISHON: The controversial legislation passed after Democrats attached it to a must-pass 680 billion dollar defense bill that includes raises for American troops. Under the new law, the Justice Department can step in if it determines states or localities are unwilling or unable to prosecute alleged hate crimes. President Barack Obama: No one in America should ever be afraid to walk down the street holding the hand of the person they love. No one in America should be forced to look over their shoulder because of who they are. JENNIFER WISHON: Mr. Obama says more than 10,000 crimes based on sexual orientation have been committed over the past decade. Opponents say there are already laws on the books to punish those crimes and that the new hate crimes expansion will do little to prevent violence against gays. Instead, many predict the new law will land Christians in jail. Rep. Mike Pence (R-Indiana): If you aid or abet or induce in the commission of a federal crime, you're guilty of that crime. And so as the scenario goes, someone could preach a sermon out of Romans 1, for instance, about sexual practices. And if someone was inspired by malevolent intent in some way to go out and commit an act of violence, that pastor, that minister, that priest could be held liable under existing federal law. JENNIFER WISHON: Congressman Pence predicts the next time the new law is debated, it will be inside of a courtroom. Meanwhile, the measure puts President Obama back into good graces with the gay community, that after some members complained the President was dragging his feet on issues important to them. Jennifer Wishon, CBN News, Washington. PAT ROBERTSON: Ladies and gentlemen, your vote counts, who you vote for. We have voted into office a group of people who are opposed to many of the fundamental Christian beliefs of our nation. And they hold to radical ideology, and they’re beginning to put people sharing their points of view into high office. And not only that, they now have control of both houses of Congress and they can put through whatever they want to. And that’s what’s happening. They’re really, at this point of time, those who are conservative, their pillar it is being rightwing obscuradist fundamentalist, so forth. There are so many names that have been given over the years. But the people who are standing for religious values for the time-honored biblical values of our nation are being hooted down. And it’s just one after another. It’s just subtle, one after another, one after another, until the liberties we have enjoyed aren’t there any longer. Lee, I am concerned. ECONOMIC GROWTH LEE WEBB: Well, Pat, we do have other news to report today. The economy appears to have turned the corner. Today’s report shows that the gross domestic product grew by 3.5 percent in the third quarter. That’s the best in two years. The stock market has been climbing steadily since March, one indication that the economy has emerged from four straight negative quarters. But economists are still split on how strong the recovery will be. Some argue that the economy will have a hard time staying on its feet, while others expect a strong expansion. COMMANDMENTS LAWSUIT LEE WEBB: A case involving a Ten Commandments monument in an Oklahoma courthouse may be headed to the US Supreme Court. Attorneys with the Alliance Defense Fund are asking for the review of a ruling last June. An appeals court decided that the eight foot granite monument on the Haskell County courthouse lawn violates the Constitution. The American Civil Liberties Union and a local resident had argued the monument was an endorsement of religion. ISLAMIC REVOLUTION LEE WEBB: Muslim countries are pressing the United Nations to give special protection to Islam. Supporters say a proposed resolution for bidding defamation of religions would protect people of all faiths. Christian groups, though, are warning it would actually hinder efforts to spread the Gospel. Gary Lane has that story. GARY LANE: Muslim countries are the driving force behind the defamation of religion’s resolution. Their intent is to impose criminal penalties on individuals deemed guilty in words or actions of defaming another person's religion. Jay Sekulow of the American Center for Law and Justice: Jay Sekulow (American Ctr. for Law & Justice): This defamation of religion has nothing to do with protecting religious freedom. In fact, to the contrary, what it does is isolate and protect Islam from criticism, which means those that are engaged in the proclamation of the Gospel to members of the Muslim faith would be guilty of violating a UN resolution. GARY LANE: Previous resolutions only addressed the Islamic faith. More recently, a conference of 57 Islamic nations determined broader support could be won if their proposal included other faiths. Carl Moeller of Open Doors USA says the resolution would actually restrict Christians from freely practicing their faith. Carl Moeller (President, Open Doors USA): Simple Christian activities like praying, worshipping and sharing one's belief in Jesus Christ with a neighbor can be interpreted as offensive and therefore restricted. GARY LANE: Globally, Muslim nations have taken the lead to impose penalties against speech or actions they find offensive. Pakistan is one example. A restrictive blasphemy law imposed by the late President Zia El-Haq in the 1980's is still in force today. Islamic militants often use it to falsely accuse and attack members of the country's minority Christian community. That was the case last summer in the city of Gojra. Eight Christians were killed and homes were burned when Muslims went on a rampage. The militants claimed the Koran had been desecrated, a crime under Pakistan's blasphemy law. Pakistan's blasphemy law contains three main sections: blasphemy against Islam, blasphemy against the Muslim holy book, the Koran, and blasphemy against the prophet Mohammed. The maximum sentence for those found guilty of blaspheming the Koran is life imprisonment. The punishment for blaspheming Mohammed: death. No Christian convicted of blasphemy has been executed by the state, but many have languished in prison for years. Pakistani Christians have launched a petition drive demanding a repeal of the blasphemy law. If the proposed Defamation of Religions law is approved by the UN, those efforts would possibly be in vain. Sekulow fears a worldwide standard. Jay Sekulow (American Ctr. for Law & Justice): Even if it is not legally enforceable in a given country, it does set a standard. And ultimately, a lot of these countries end up adopting resolution language that the UN passes. So, the precedent here is very dangerous. GARY LANE: And worldwide, UN adoption of a defamation law could mean similar actions like those against Christians in Pakistan and even in Gojra could become more commonplace. Gary Lane, CBN News. LEE WEBB: Pat, these kinds of restrictions seem ridiculous in the world’s eyes, but the UN doesn’t realize that the Gospel has its greatest strength when it’s persecuted many times. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I was reading about what happened to the Israelites in Egypt. When they were under persecution, they began to thrive and grow. But I tell you, the Christian church is going to be under intense persecution. And it seems to me that if Islam was any good, it would stand on its own two feet. It wouldn’t persecute people who disagreed with it. The Christian Church isn’t asking any death sentence for people who disagree with the Bible or who don’t think Jesus Christ is the Son of God. That’s open to debate, because we believe the best test of truth is in the marketplace. And I think that the free expression of ideas is what we believe. But Islam doesn’t believe that. They want a closed society where nobody can question them, because they’re doing things that are wrong, and they know it. So they don’t want the light to shine on them. And that to me says something very profound about the nature of their faith. Lee. HOUSE HEALTH CARE PLAN LEE WEBB: Pat, after months of tense negotiations, House Democrats are set to unveil their retooled version of health care overhaul. The bill would require nearly everyone to sign up for health insurance through their employer, a government program or a purchasing agent by 2013. The overhaul carries a hefty price tag of more than a trillion dollars over ten years. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to have the legislation on the floor next week, and she's aiming for a final vote before November 11th. No Republicans are expected, Pat, to vote for the plan. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I hope the Republicans have the intestinal fortitude to stand up against this thing. It is going to cost a fortune. It is going to cause long delays. It’s going to cause lines. It’s going to cause inadequate health care. It just goes down the line. You say what is it these people are trying to fix? We’ve got a very good health care system in this country. Sure, it’s a little expensive, but that’s because of modern technology. But what is it they’re trying to fix? Ask yourself. What are they trying to fix? When you try to fix something that isn’t broken, what are they trying to do? It’s a massive power grab to bring all this stuff under federal control. They want one major portion of the United States economy to be under federal jurisdiction. That’s what it’s about. It’s a socialist tendency. And they say, “We’ve got to pass health care reform.” Nonsense. What they’ve got to do is have a federal power grab so that the leftists can take control of the way we live. That’s what they want to do. They’re moving towards socialism. Make no mistake about it. It needs to be named for what it is. Lee. DECEPTIVE CREDIT CARD PRACTICES LEE WEBB: Despite the threat of congressional action, deceptive credit card practices are on the rise. That’s according to a new report from the Pew Charitable Trust. Roughly 400 consumer credit cards were examined. It was found that credit card companies had either raised interest and penalty rates, imposed higher fees, increased minimum payments or reduced credit lines. ABC News reports that 12 leading bank card issuers continued to engage in practices that will soon be outlawed. New credit card laws go into effect in February. Until then, experts warn that consumers should shop around and read the fine print. ASTEROID EXPLOSION LEE WEBB: An asteroid went undetected by telescopes before it hit our atmosphere. The giant space rock exploded over Indonesia earlier this month. And this video shows the dust trail from it. It is being called one of the largest asteroid explosions ever observed. The New Scientist reports the blast released as much energy as 50,000 tons of TNT, and that is about three times more powerful than the atomic bomb at Hiroshima. The infrasound waves, which are too low to be heard by the human ear, Pat, could be picked up on the instruments halfway around the world. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, if you look at the Bible, that’s what’s going to happen one of these days. A giant flaming mountain is going to be cast into the sea by an angel. That’s what it says. Well, these are flaming mountains, or flaming rocks. And they have the potential to destroy most of the life on earth if they get big enough. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Is your book still around? PAT ROBERTSON: It’s still around, Terry. How nice of you to ask. Well, that’s what’s going to happen, so people need to understand it. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But to have a giant asteroid that could not be detected by telescopes before it entered the atmosphere. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, it wasn’t as giant as some of the impactors, but it was a pretty good size. You think, many more times the explosive force of what we had at Hiroshima is frightening. We need some people in our government to track these things and to see what we can do to stop them. But I think people are asleep. There are so many dangers we live under, and this one is going undetected. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, men who lead double lives on the down low. Man: At the end of the day, it’s the wife, the fiancée, the girlfriend, who is getting the short end of the stick. Totally unsuspected. And unfortunately, she finds out many times the most painful way there is to find out. TERRY MEEUWSEN: See what they’re hiding, next. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GRAPHIC: GHOST STORY LEE WEBB: Coming up later, what started as a game . . . . Woman: We were looking up at my dad, just kind of laughing, like, “Look, and we’re not doing it.” LEE WEBB: . . . . just innocent childhood fun . . . . Woman: And I heard stomping up and down the hall. And so I ended up looking out, and there was nobody there. LEE WEBB: . . . . turns into an obsession . . . . Woman: I would hear this loud evil chanting. LEE WEBB: . . . . and comes back to haunt this woman. Woman: It was saying, “I’m going to kill you, Tara,” over and over. LEE WEBB: Her story, on today’s 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 1: ALERT USA Dr. Joyce Brothers: Hi, I’m Dr. Joyce Brothers. Those of us who are independent and live alone shouldn’t do so without having emergency protection. And for reliability and peace of mind, I recommend Alert USA. Announcer: With Alert USA, if you ever need assistance, just press your pendant to be connected to an operator who can summon help to your home 24 hours a day. 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It’s called living on the down low, when men have a wife or a girlfriend, but they also have a secret life that exposes them to all kinds of terrible diseases. And this deadly trend is destroying families and even infecting the church. Charlene Israel has this shocking story. FOCUS: DOWN LOW CHARLENE ISRAEL: LaJoyce Brookshire is no stranger to success. She’s the author of the bestseller-turned-hit-movie Soul Food. And as a record company executive, she’s worked with some of the biggest names in some music. (Interviewing): Who are some of the other people you’ve had the opportunity to work with? LaJoyce Brookshire: Oh, I've had the opportunity to work with Miss Aretha and . . . . CHARLENE ISRAEL: The queen of soul. LaJoyce Brookshire: The queen of soul. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Wow. LaJoyce Brookshire: Whitney Houston, Sean Diddy Combs. CHARLENE ISRAEL (Reporting): In 1990, at the height of her career, she met and married the man of her dreams. That dream that quickly turned into a nightmare after a shocking discovery. LaJoyce Brookshire (Author): My husband of two years was full blown AIDS, had full blown AIDS. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Then she couldn't help but wonder about her own health. LaJoyce Brookshire: And my first thought was for them to take my blood, so they could tell me I’m negative. CHARLENE ISRAEL: She relied on her childhood faith to get her through. LaJoyce Brookshire: It was as if God had said to me, “Daughter, go, thy faith has made thee whole, and you are free from all your diseases.” I just knew that I knew I was negative. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Medical tests proved her right. Miraculously, Brookshire was HIV negative. LaJoyce Brookshire: And I am negative, hallelujah. It's only by the grace of God that I am negative. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Brookshire is one of the few happy endings. Every nine and a half minutes, someone in America is diagnosed with HIV and AIDS. In 2007, 40 percent of those cases were black women. And now, HIV is the leading cause of death for black women between the ages of 25 and 34. One reason behind this can be traced to behavior known in the African American community as living on the down low. That is when a man in a heterosexual relationship secretly sleeps with men. Kristie Puckett (Charlotte, NC): It's enraging. It really is a tragic thing to think that someone that you love has your best interest at heart, and they really don't. They're just selfish and thinking of themselves and their pleasure. Norman Hutchens (Charlotte, NC): You don't know who you're messing with or who you're talking to nowadays. I'm sure half the time, most of the people don't come up front about the issue. CHARLENE ISRAEL: And what may be even scarier is that these men are found in all segments of the population. Pastor Michael Stevens (University City Church): It's in corporate America. It's in government. It's in sports. And again, at the end of the day, it's the African American woman, the wife, the fiancée, the girlfriend who's getting the short end of the stick, totally unsuspected. And unfortunately she finds out many times the most painful way there is to find out: HIV AIDS. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Pastor Michael Stevens writes specifically about this in his book, Straight Up: The Church’s Official Response to the Epidemic of Down Low Living. Pastor Michael Stevens: There's so many men in the church that I pastor and in churches around America that are struggling with this. You've got a third of African American men who are actually on the “down low.” They consider themselves, although they sleep with other men, they still consider themselves heterosexual. That's the problem. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Pastor Stevens stresses that the church must take a stronger role in addressing the struggle that some men have with homosexuality. Pastor Michael Stevens: My fear is now we are creating what they would call a gay friendly, homosexual user-friendly church where we are all accepted, where we are all God's children. Come on in; get the tithes and offerings up. Let’s get the popularity up. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Dr. Alveda King, niece of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., agrees. Dr. Alveda King (Niece of Martin Luther King, Jr.): Say the organist is gay, and he's dying of AIDS, HIV; so he plays the organ louder, and the people jump up and dance louder so they don't hear the pain of the sickness of the HIV. So you cover up the sin in the church with the theatrics and the music and all of that. CHARLENE ISRAEL: But Pastor Stevens said there is hope for men who want out of the lifestyle. Pastor Michael Stevens: I know men today who struggled for years with homosexuality, men who struggle and they publicly struggled. It was no secret, but God saved them, delivered them, healed them. Today, they walk in wholeness and healing. Today they are good husbands and fathers. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Brookshire is now married to her childhood sweetheart and is the mother of a seven-year-old daughter. She is still HIV free and travels the country speaking out about HIV and AIDS awareness. She candidly shares her story in her book, Faith Under Fire: Betrayed by a Thing Called Love. Most of all, she shares about God's saving grace. LaJoyce Brookshire: This could have devastated me for the rest of my entire life, but what it did was it increased my faith and helped to make me stronger. I can only thank God for this experience. I wouldn't take back one day of it, because of what has transpired on the other side. All I could think about was like, “Okay, Lord, you must have an incredible assignment for me.” CHARLENE ISRAEL: Charlene Israel, CBN News. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, Charlene. Terry, did you ever hear of this before? TERRY MEEUWSEN: I have. PAT ROBERTSON: You have? TERRY MEEUWSEN: I have. I don’t think it’s just the African American community, certainly. In fact, I have a friend who attended a Bible study in my home. Her husband was an attorney, a pillar in the church. They had six children, very conservative. He had heart surgery, wasn’t healing well. She demanded an answer from the doctor. The man was HIV positive. She was tested. She had AIDS. They have both died since then. It was a great tragedy. And that was a number of years ago. This has been going on for a while. PAT ROBERTSON: Did they use the term “down low?” Is that what you’ve heard? TERRY MEEUWSEN: No. I think that might be an African American term, but I think the issue is one that touches all of our society. PAT ROBERTSON: It’s horrible to contemplate. To think a woman that her husband she loves, that this guy is bringing some disease home with him. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But I think what the pastor said is so true, that there are plenty of people who have found freedom in the Lord publicly, but then we as the church better be ready to come alongside these people and help them through that journey to healing. PAT ROBERTSON: At the same time, we should be enablers of the other. TERRY MEEUWSEN: No. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It’s a serious problem. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, ladies, I don’t know what to say. Ask your boyfriends for a blood test. Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, up next, a real life ghost story. Woman: And I heard stomping up and down the hall. And I thought, “Oh, my dad is home, and he is not too happy.” And so I ended up looking out in the hall, and there was nobody there. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Find out what went bump in the night, after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 2: AMMED DIRECT Nicole Johnson: Hi, I’m Nicole Johnson, Miss America 1999. I’ve had diabetes since 1993, and I hate boring food. 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Tara just doesn’t believe in haunted houses. According to her, she lived in one. TARA LAWSON DEBBIE WHITE: After watching a horror movie at the age of 12, Tara Lawson and her brother talked their mother into buying a Ouija board. Tara Lawson: We just got a Parker Brothers Ouija board at a toy store. And we didn’t realize that it was more than just a toy. DEBBIE WHITE: What started out as innocent fascination turned Tara’s life into a nightmare filled with oppression. An evil presence made itself known almost immediately. Tara Lawson: It was moving our hands across the board, and it was moving really fast. And we were looking up at my dad, just kind of laughing like, “Look, and we’re not doing it.” Tara’s Father: It was spelling out this profanity, and they were looking up at me and laughing. And that sent some cold chills up your spine. So I said, “Give me that thing.” And I said, “We’re not playing this anymore.” I said, “I’m getting rid of it.” DEBBIE WHITE: Tara’s dad hid the board. It wasn’t long, though, before Tara found it and secretly began playing again. Tara Lawson: To me it was just kind of something that was like a game, something that was just fun for me. I didn’t realize the extent of the damage it could do in my life, what I was opening myself up to, that it was something demonic, something evil. DEBBIE WHITE: But the more she played, the more frightened she became. Tara Lawson: I had it underneath my dresser. I would get so scared. I couldn’t sleep knowing it was under there. Tara’s Father: She came back and said, “I found that Ouija board. I’ve been playing it again, and I can’t sleep. It’s bothering me. Would you please get rid of it?” DEBBIE WHITE: Tara and her father burned the Ouija board. But a few years later, she was drawn back to it again. This time she made her own Ouija board with a friend. Tara Lawson: That one was even more powerful than the one before. It moved even stronger. It would say all kinds of wild stuff, and then it would just start saying all these inappropriate things. So being teenage girls, we would kind of laugh and feel kind of uncomfortable, but we’d keep playing. And I could tell it was spelling something, but it was going so fast I couldn’t tell what it was spelling, but I saw my name. And it was saying, “I’m going to kill you, Tara. I’m going to kill you, Tara,” over and over. We ended up saying, “Our Father which art in Heaven.” That’s all we really needed to say, and it went to “goodbye” immediately. DEBBIE WHITE: She stopped playing with the Ouija board, but Tara’s life was dominated by loneliness and fear. Tara Lawson: I felt so alone. I felt like I didn’t have anybody. It’s almost like I was under this dark cloud of oppression. I opened that door to evil into my life. It brought in destruction. It brought in a dark oppression over my life. It seemed like everything from that point forward was spiraling downward. DEBBIE WHITE: Strange things occurred around her. Objects moved through her room at night. Loud noises would echo through the house when no one else was home. Tara Lawson: I heard stomping up and down the hall, and I thought, “Oh, my dad’s home, and he is not too happy.” And so I ended up looking out into the hall, and there was nobody there. DEBBIE WHITE: Tara eventually got married and moved out of the house, but the darkness went with her. Tara Lawson: I would hear this loud evil chanting. I didn’t understand the language. It didn’t really sound like a human voice. It didn’t sound like a human voice could talk in that tone and be that loud. DEBBIE WHITE: Then late one night . . . . Tara Lawson: He was still up, and I was asleep. And he looked in the hall, and he saw this dark figure in the hall. And he ended up just saying a prayer to himself and it disappeared. DEBBIE WHITE: Tara’s marriage eventually fell apart. One night as she slept she had a vivid dream that she was violently murdered. Tara Lawson: I closed my eyes. I said, “God, please get me out of here.” I was like, “Please, just save me.” It just hit me that one day I’m going to die. One day I’m going to die, and I don’t know if I’m going to go to Heaven or Hell. So I just started praying to God. I called out to Him, and I said, “God, please, please show me what to do to be saved. I don’t even know what to do, but I know I don’t want to go to Hell.” DEBBIE WHITE: The answer to her prayer came early the next day. Tara Lawson: The next morning I hear a knock on the door, and I went to the door, and there was a man standing there with a Bible. He said, “I just wanted to come in and read some of the Bible with you and pray with you.” And I was like, “Yes.” And he read John 3:16 with me, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever shall believe in Him shall have everlasting life.” DEBBIE WHITE: Tara prayed to become a Christian. Her life was instantly transformed. Tara Lawson: It changed everything, just like everything woke up in me. It’s like I was looking at things through new eyes, a new perspective, through His eyes. I was changing day by day. I’ve never felt that kind of love before in my life. And it was just amazing how quickly that transformation took place when His presence came into my life. It was darkness into light. DEBBIE WHITE: Tara is now a prayer counselor with The 700 Club. Her days of darkness are a distant memory, yet now serve as a warning to others. Tara Lawson: The Ouija board was just an open door for all that took place. The only thing that stopped it was me turning my life over to Jesus. I feel like He is always there protecting me. I don’t have anything to worry about. He’s right there guarding over me and looking after me. Even when I’m alone, I don’t feel alone, because I feel like He’s right there with me. And He’s never going to leave me. He’s never going to forsake me. He made my life beautiful. He can make anyone’s life beautiful. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT MINISTERS PAT ROBERTSON: He can make your life beautiful. You know something, the Bible is very explicit about what it says. The devil was a fallen angel, driven out of Heaven because of rebellion against God. And he took with him some of the other angels. And they have come to earth, and they’re known as demonic spirits or evil spirits or unclean spirits. You’ll see those terms in the New Testament. What are they? Well, they come to torment people, just like the devil came to destroy, to kill and to destroy. He’s got with him a legion of demonic forces that do his bidding. And when we have something like Halloween, for example, we are having a celebration of the devil. We’re having a celebration of these demonic forces. They look for worship. The devil looks for worship. And this is a night when we worship the devil. You say, “Oh, this is harmless.” No, it’s not harmless. Just like Ouija boards aren’t harmless. Séances aren’t harmless. All the things that people do, and a lot of young people just get their kicks out of having a Ouija board little courser that travels across the board and answers some questions. And they have levitation. Some kids have prayed, and they get levitated, and all kinds of stuff that happens. And is it real? Yes, it’s real. But where does it come from? It comes from demons. It comes from demonic forces. And what do they want to do? Do they want to make you happy? Of course not. They want to destroy you. They want to take you away from God, from Jesus, from salvation. And they want you to spend eternity in hell with them. They’re going into a lake of fire that’s reserved for the devil and his angels. You read Revelation. A lake of fire reserved for the devil and his angels. But those who take his way are going to wind up there. That’s your destiny, unless you turn away from that and turn to Jesus. Now, some of you have been playing games. You’ve been dabbling in this stuff. You have to look at the horoscope in the paper. You’ve got to look at all these occult things. And you are fascinated by it. You’re drawn to them. You say, “I want to know the future.” Well, God will tell you the future, but the future is in Jesus Christ. Now, right now, Tara Lawson said, “I have peace. I have peace,” because she accepted Jesus. Do you want to be free from demonic power? Do you want to be protected in the future? Do you want to be looked after in the power of God? Well, if you do, I want you to turn your life over to Him. The scripture she used, it was used with her. It was John 3:16, “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Do you want everlasting life? Do you want to be free from demon power? Listen, don’t be playing games on Halloween. Don’t be playing all these things. They are much more serious than you realize. Don’t call on demons, because they will come and live with you. The Bible says, “He who seeks evil, evil will come to him.” You don’t want evil coming to you. But if you want salvation, if you want joy, peace and love in your life, I’m asking you to bow your head and pray with me right now. Don’t go anywhere. Right now, do it. These words. Pray with me, and Jesus will answer you. “Lord Jesus Christ.” That’s right. Pray with me. “Lord Jesus Christ, I know you died for me, and you died for sinners. And I know that you have destroyed the work of the devil. I know that you are King of kings and Lord of lords. And all creation is under your power. And so right now, Lord Jesus, I come to you and I humbly ask for you to forgive me, to save my soul and to fill me with your power. And Lord, set me free from demonic power. I bind Satan and the forces of evil, in the name of Jesus. Now, Lord, I thank you that you’ve heard my prayer. I thank you that you’ve come into my heart. Thank you, Lord, in Jesus’ name.” Now, Father, for those who prayed with me right now, let the power of God touch them. Set them free from any malevolent, malicious, evil force that might come against them, in Jesus’ name. Amen. Now, if you prayed with me, I want to give you something. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM I want you to get established. Don’t just have something real quick, like that plant that sprang up immediately, but it had no root. I want you to have roots deep in the Lord. 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It makes a great gift for friends, family, Bible study, Sunday school or church groups. Order now. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARTIFICIAL BABY? LEE WEBB: Welcome back to The 700 Club. Scientists say they're closer to creating a baby with sperm and eggs created in a lab. American researchers claim they have found a way to make human embryonic stem cells turn into the two components needed to make a baby. Scientists tell the journal Nature that the breakthrough will one day be able to help couples struggling with infertility and inherited diseases. They say they are about five years away from producing sperm and eggs mature enough to create an embryo. The practice would also have to clear several ethical and safety hurdles, though, before being allowed in the US. BIBLE LAWSUIT LEE WEBB: A young student’s to hold Bible study in school has reached federal court in Tennessee. It is a battle that began five years ago when the child was in the fourth grade. Samuel and Tina Whitson sued the school after the principal told their son and other students they couldn't read and discuss the Bible during recess. They filed a federal lawsuit against the Knox County Board of Education. This week, school leaders told a judge the issue could have been resolved without a lawsuit. You can always get the latest from CBN News by going to our website at CBN.com. GRAPHIC: FOR MORE INFORMATION LOG ON TO CBN.COM Pat and Terry will be back with more of The 700 Club, after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 4: CANCER CENTER Laura Brokow: The doctor came in. I was still waking up from anesthesia. He leaned over my bed and he said, “Laura, you have cancer,” and he walked out of the room. The first thought is, “What’s going to happen to my children?” I knew I was ready to fight this, and I just wanted this cancer out of me. I wanted to take care of it and move on. Then my mom called me. She had seen an ad on TV for Cancer Treatment Centers of America. It was just a tremendous experience from the minute that I walked in the door. Their bedside manner, you just can’t even describe it. It takes a very special person to do what they’re doing. Announcer: Hope is alive at Cancer Treatment Centers of America. Call us now to have a real conversation about you and your treatment options. We’ll send you this free DVD that shows you how this very special group of people put you at the center of everything they do. Laura Brokow: I wanted to live to see my kids grow up. That’s what gave me the drive to fight cancer. They supported that in me. They gave me choices. They made me realize that every life is worth saving. You can’t fight cancer if you don’t have hope. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, you could easily argue that today America is a divided country. And while we elect a leader every four years hoping to heal the rift, author Bruce Feiler says the man to unite the country may be the same man who parted the Red Sea. SET-UP PIECE TIM BRANSON: When you think of America’s founding fathers, names like Thomas Jefferson, George Washington and Benjamin Franklin come to mind. But Bruce Feiler says America’s real founding father is Moses. In his new book, America’s Prophet, Feiler shows how the story of Moses is deeply woven into the fabric of American history. From the pilgrims to the civil rights movement, from the Statue of Liberty to Superman, Moses has been an inspirational figure, and he continues to influence our faith and our future. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GUEST: BRUCE FEILER TERRY MEEUWSEN: Please welcome to The 700 Club the author of America’s Prophet, Bruce Feiler. It’s great to have you here. Bruce Feiler: Thank you, Terry. Delightful to be here. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay, before we get to all of those other serious comparisons, Superman? Bruce Feiler: Superman was written by two Jews in Cleveland, Ohio, and they took point by point the back story. So just as Moses was put into a small basket to escape a people facing annihilation, Superman into a small spaceship, both raised by aliens, then summoned to assist humanity. And Superman’s original name in Kryptonian was Kal-El. And the El, of course, is the El from Elohim in the Bible. So Israel is the one who wrestles with God. And Kal-El means “swift God.” So Superman was designed to be a modern day God. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Wow. Who knew? Bruce Feiler: By the way, Hitler knew. And actually he condemned Superman as a man of God, and there was this whole battle. And a quarter of Americans were carrying a comic book in their pockets during World War II. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Interesting. Well, when most of us in America think of Moses, in our lifetime we think of Charleton Heston in The Ten Commandments as sort of the visual of all of that. You say you actually saw notes that were made on the original script of that? Talk about that. Bruce Feiler: I was invited in. No one had ever been given access to the DeMille estate, and I went into basically like his garage. It’s like your grandfather’s garage if your grandfather had made 70 movies. And the thing is, there on the wall was a box that said “Moses’ Robe.” And I tried it on, Terry. Don’t tell anybody, but I tried it on. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Did you really? Bruce Feiler: I resisted my inclination to part my arms. “Behold His mighty hand,” is what Heston said. But what was interesting was that DeMille turned Moses into a hero of the Cold War, into kind of an American icon. In the end of the movie, Moses hands over the Book of Life to Joshua, turns, quotes the Liberty Bell, “Proclaim liberty throughout the land unto all the inhabitants thereof,” which is a quote from Leviticus 25, which is very far from the end of Deuteronomy. And then he walks to the top of the mountain, recreates the pose of the Statue of Liberty. Now, the Statue of Liberty also modeled on Moses, that the spikes around her head, the tablet in her arms, both from that moment in Exodus when Moses comes down the mountain with the Ten Commandments. And so you see basically Moses became a kind of symbol of America and of America spreading democracy around the world. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Principle. Yes. Well, you say that the concept for this book, America’s Prophet, which is available around the country, by the way, began with a celebration of an event that’s always a celebration in your family. You were sitting around the table at Thanksgiving. Bruce Feiler: Well, we heard about this—you mentioned at the top of our conversation that you hear this conversation, “Oh, my daughter doesn’t understand what made America great,” or, “Oh, my grandmother takes these stories too seriously.” That conversation had broken down. And I have spent, as you know, ten years traveling around the Middle East, working on Walking the Bible, the book and the TV show, Abraham, where God was born. And I began to travel around and discover that really this biblical story is at the heart of the American story. So the pilgrims, when they were sailing on the Mayflower said, “Not since Moses was there a more important journey.” And why is that? Because what is the story about? It’s a story about people being in oppression for their religious values, crossing a sea, creating a new promised land. And all through American history, the story has helped people when they are in a difficult place imagine a better world. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It seems as though, in fact, you say that Moses was more inspiring to the Puritans, to the revolutionaries, even the civil rights movement, than maybe Jesus was. Bruce Feiler: Well, Jesus, of course, is central to American history. America was essentially 100 percent Christian at its founding and is 80 percent Christian today. But the story of Jesus’ life is really poverty, charity, spreading the Gospel, building a Kingdom of Heaven. These are so central to Americans’ private lives, whereas the Moses story really is about taking a people in oppression, turning them into a nation of laws. So you had, you mentioned at the top of our conversation, you had Jefferson, Franklin and Adams. On July 4, 1776, immediately after passing the Declaration, Congress asked them to come up with a seal. They proposed that Moses be on the seal of the United States. So these are three of the defining faces of the revolution, and they thought that Moses should be the face of America. And again, it’s back to this idea. What were they? They were this small band of colonists standing up the super power in common sense. They called King George the Pharaoh. And this gave them hope. And I think that’s so important about this story. We are living in troubled times today, right? I don’t have to tell you that. And people are feeling hurt, and what can take them out? It’s this idea that you can come out of a restricted place and make a better world. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And you believe that in the hour that we live in that Moses can be that unifying story, that unifying element. And yet, Bruce, you talk about the difficult times that we live in. Part of the difficulty that we live in is a loss of value of these stories of character and morality and who God is and what He is trying to speak to us. So how do you see Moses being able to unify us in this day? Bruce Feiler: Well, first of all, yes, you cannot separate the Bible from American history. It has been there at every defining step along the way. That is certainly point number one. And I think point number two is that Democrats, Republicans, left, right, Christian, Jew, they’ve all used the story. And that, I think, is where you are. I think that if you’re going to have successful conversation at Thanksgiving dinner coming up, let’s just say, “Let’s go back. Let’s just march through the history.” Look how the pilgrims used the story. Look at how the revolution, look at how Abraham Lincoln at Gettysburg quoting the Exodus. Martin Luther King, the night before he dies, saying, “I’ve been to the mountaintop. I’ve looked over. I’ve seen the promised land. I may not make it there with you, but we as a people will make it there.” You cannot understand America without understanding the role of Moses. And I think when you go back and you have a shared history, then we’re going to sit down. We’re eventually going to get to the conflicts of today, but now we have seen that the story of this biblical hero helped make America great. And it just softens the edges of the conversation and gives us something new to talk about. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I want to personalize this a little bit for you, because I understand you really applied a lot of these truths and understandings to your life a year ago when you were diagnosed with cancer. How did that impact you? Bruce Feiler: Well, I think that Egypt in the Bible, the word actually means a constricted place. I was diagnosed with bone cancer, had nine months of chemotherapy and elaborate reconstructive surgery on my leg. And what I understood was that, first of all, when you go through a difficult time, you need to imagine a better place. You need to keep that promised land in your mind. And that passage from Moses that’s on the Liberty Bell comes from Leviticus 25. It’s the part of the Bible where it says, “Nurture the suffering. Take the hurting into your arms.” And we got through it. My family, my wife and my four-year-old twin daughters, because of the way the community rallied around us. So that’s why I tell my daughters, “Imagine a promised land. Plunge through those waters. Persevere through the dryness. And keep your eye on the idea that you can make the world a better place.” TERRY MEEUWSEN: Remember who you are and whose you are. The book is called America’s Prophet, Moses and the American story. It’s fascinating, and it’s available nationwide. Bruce Feiler, thank you so much for being with us. God bless you. Bruce Feiler: Terry, thank you very much. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Good to have you here. Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: A wonderful way to lead into Thanksgiving. I think that’s tremendous. Well, still ahead, we’re going to Bring It On with your e-mail. Warren says, “I’ve cursed God and the Holy Spirit. Is there any hope for me to get into Heaven?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, we’ll have an answer for that question and more, later on today’s 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 5: SWISS AMERICA Ed Lubin (Host, A Rare Opportunity): Would you invest your life savings in a company with a track record like this? Well, if all your assets are sitting in US dollars, you already are. I’m Ed Lubin, and you are about to experience a rare opportunity from Swiss America. Pat Boone: Pat Boone here for my good friends at Swiss America, the company that has helped Americans to rediscover gold for over 25 years now. You may have noticed gold prices have more than doubled in the last five years, but do you ever wonder why? Economists say the top five reasons are: a falling dollar, which also creates number two, a rising cost of living. Third, increasing demand for gold worldwide. Fourth, political uncertainty. And fifth, new Wall Street gold funds. Call Swiss America now for a free educational kit. Ask about tax free gold IRAs. Seize this rare opportunity today. Call now. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NEXT DAY PROMO GRAPHIC: DEAD SEA LEE WEBB: Tomorrow. See why some are saying the Dead Sea could dry up. * * * GRAPHIC: WORLD SERIES 2009 LEE WEBB: Plus, it’s the Phillies and Yankees in the fall classic. Go inside the clubhouse to find out what makes these players tick. * * * GRAPHIC: SHERRI SHEPHERD LEE WEBB: And then . . . . Sherri Shepherd (Acting): You do not want to go down that road. That is a scary road. People die on that road. LEE WEBB: The View’s Sherri Shepherd tells us about the biggest challenge of her life, on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, in Peru, the Humboldt current comes in, as far as Lima is clouded in mist and fog. And the rainy season lasts for a few months every year. For Lesly, that meant leaky roofs and heavy flooding. It also meant that at any moment, she and her family could be swept away. A NEW HOME FOR LESLY KEN HULME: Lesly lives on the edge of the Amazon River in Peru. She’s a single mom who has to make do with a house whose roof leaks when it rains. Lesly: I didn’t have money to buy leaves for our roof. It was cheaper to buy plastic. So that’s what I put on the roof. KEN HULME: But the plastic always leaks during rainy season, and that made for long miserable nights. Lesly: My children couldn’t sleep because the roof leaks. The water would come in and soak everything. I would sing to my kids, so they could laugh. I laughed on the outside, and on the inside I was suffering. KEN HULME: But things were about to get worse, much worse. When the river floods every year during rainy season, this is what happens to Lesly’s house. In fact, one morning during the floods, Lesly had to go out and rescue her five-year-old daughter. Lesly: I realize that if I hadn’t gone outside at that moment, my daughter would have died. I asked my aunt for a place to stay, even if it was just a room, where we could stay until the flooding passed. KEN HULME: When Operation Blessing arrived on the scene to provided disaster relief, they found Lesly’s home completely underwater. That’s when the team decided it was time to tear down the house and build her a new one. In just one day, they built her a new house on stilts, with a roof that doesn’t leak anymore. Lesly’s new home is now safe from floods year round. Lesly: I am grateful, because I have a home, and my children will not get wet. And I thank you. KEN HULME: A few months later, during dry season, Operation Blessing went back and set up a small stand for Lesly to sell essentials to her neighbors. Now she has a way to provide for her young family without ever leaving home. Lesly: Thank you for the new business and my new home. Thank you, Operation Blessing. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: In this country, we have so much. People complain, “Well, the turkey was a little bit overdone,” or “The mashed potatoes were a little too lumpy,” or something. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM And you think of somebody who is hoping for a roof over her head, so the water doesn’t come in and it doesn’t leak. And a few items that she can sell in a convenience store. Look at that. It’s crude where they live, but they’re grateful to God and grateful to you for alleviating some of the suffering. Well, I tell you, if we can help some people around the world—I know that we can’t help them all. There are so many people that are suffering in this world. There are at least 800 million who are living below the poverty line. Every day might be the last day in terms of the amount of food they’ve got. And we are going to be wasting so much food here in the way we live and restaurants and so forth. But we can help people. It doesn’t take much. You say, “What can I do?” Well, 20 dollars a month makes a huge difference. And Operation Blessing, we can put in little places to help people. We can’t build great housing developments with split level ranch houses. We’re not doing that. We’re not doing that. But we’re helping people who are right at the edge of poverty who need some help, need medicine, need a little bit of money to live on, whatever. And we can help. So what do you do? You sit down and write out a check for 20 dollars or more. And say, “You can count on me every month for a membership in The 700 Club.” So give us a call: 1-800-759-0700. And you can be a part of a growing army of thousands that’s reaching out with compassion around the world. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BRING IT ON PAT ROBERTSON: Well, now let’s reach out to those who have reached to us with their questions. TERRY MEEUWSEN: They have, Pat. This is Warren, who says, “Pat, I was saved and baptized as a teen, but I drifted away from church and became very angry with God. I’m ashamed to say that I have cursed God, the Holy Spirit, Jesus and anything to do with Christianity. I’ve begged God for forgiveness and asked Him to come into my heart. Is there any hope of my going to Heaven someday?” PAT ROBERTSON: I think there is a lot of hope. The fact that you are conscious of your sin, the Lord will not turn you away. If He had turned you away, you wouldn’t have been conscious of this. You would have been thinking, “Hey, I’m okay. Everything is fine.” It’s when you begin to realize you’re a sinner—when the publican beat his chest and said, “God, be merciful to me, a sinner.” That’s the person who gets forgiven according to the Bible. Let me recommend that you spend several days—go away and fast for two or three days. Take your Bible. Write down all the stuff you’ve done, the bad stuff. Write it on a piece of paper. And then when it’s over, take that piece of paper and burn it and say, “I’m giving these to the Lord. I’m going to receive His forgiveness.” Spend a little time and God will speak to you. He will meet you. And if you don’t believe what’s in the Bible, the Bible makes it clear that your sins are forgiven. All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is Janet, who says, “Pat, I’m 13 years old, and my friends and I need your help. We’ve gotten into the habit of making perverse jokes. It’s starting to bother us now, but we can’t stop. What can we do to be free of this? It seems to infect everything now.” PAT ROBERTSON: I don’t know what you do, except keep your mouth shut. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s a bad habit. It really is a bad habit. There has to be a commitment amongst you I think to stop that, because one person starts, and then everybody else follows. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I think all your group together, join hands together and day, “In the name of Jesus Christ, we renounce this perverse speech. We’re not going to do it anymore. And we ask the Lord to set us free. Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Thy sight, O Lord, my strength and my redeemer.” Read the Psalm, what it says. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And ask for the power of the Holy Spirit. That makes a huge difference. PAT ROBERTSON: Take that and say it over and over again. It’s in the Psalms. “Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in Thy sight. The words of my mouth.” All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Jewel says, “When I was four years old, my 13-year-old brother physically abused me, which he denies. I am now 46 years old. I thought I had forgiven him, but recently he was convicted of abusing a nine-year-old child, and I have become very angry. Does this mean I haven’t forgiven him?” PAT ROBERTSON: No, it means that you’re still thinking about it. You need to forgive him, but in a sense, I think you should go to him and confront him. If he has been convicted, that means he’s going to jail. So it seems like to me you ought to visit him and say, “Let’s get this thing straight. They busted you for this one. And you’ve denied the other one, but I want you to come clean and ask for forgiveness,” because he has to do that. You just don’t necessarily forgive somebody just because they haven’t asked. There needs to be some action on his part. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, there is a righteous anger that comes up when you feel that that’s been done to an innocent child. I don’t think that means you haven’t forgiven. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. Well, you can forgive, but at the same time, you need to get together with him. Go to the prison where he is, the jail where he’s located, and confront him and talk about this. Well, folks, that’s all the time we’ve got. We leave you today with these words from I Corinthians, . . . . GRAPHIC: I Corinthians 10:13 “God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out.” (NIV) . . . . “God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide a way out.” See you tomorrow. Bye, bye. GRAPHIC: COPYRIGHT 2009 CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * END SPOT: YOU WERE THERE TERRY MEEUWSEN: Hi, this is Terry Meeuwsen. I have the privilege of traveling around the world, seeing the life changing things CBN partners make possible. On a recent trip to South Africa, I saw firsthand the incredible difference you’re making in orphans’ lives. Here at home and across the nations, you are bringing the help people so desperately need, just like you did for Lesly, who lives along the Amazon River. When the floods came, her house was completely underwater. You built this single mom and her children a new home and even gave her a start in a new business, so she can support her family. 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